he's running to midfield. listen to this crowd. and jack hoffman, young man that as i mentioned has been -- >> no way. that's so awesome. the team rushed to the end zone, lifted him up on their shoulders. just an incredible moment for that kid and for everybody. way to go, good for him. >> that is it for me. "cnn newsroom" continues. in america's debate over guns, this week could mean everything. and it starts tonight with president obama not too far from newtown. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >> no, no, no. >> iron lady dies and inside look at margaret thatcher's relationship, both with ronald reagan, and the queen. >> the lady is not returning.

the desperate search for needles in a hay stack. how crews are looking for two brothers in the gulf of mexico. plus, one of music's sexiest couples taking heat for their vacation to cuba. and, snoop says there will never be a gay rapper. he explains why. hi, everyone. i'm brooke baldwin. thanks for joining me here on this monday. we have to begin with sad news here this afternoon. known for her mousketeer ears, her beach parties, the entertainment world remembering annette funicello today. the former teen icon has died at the age of 70. we're told funicello died from complications of multiple sclerosis, a disease she apparently battled for years.

>> i was feeling strange little things, numbness. i used to think i slept on my arm wrong. my equilibrium was strange, you know? i couldn't walk on the sand. my eyesight was deteriorating. it really was. so i found out the latter part and it threw me, you know? it really threw me, because i've always been so healthy. >> and that was annette funicello speaking with larry king in 1994, just want to have a big discussion here at the top of the hour, nischelle turner, our entertainment correspondent,

our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. and paul anka is dialing in. he's coming out with a book tomorrow, and he talks about writing some of the singles for annette funicello and some flirting. i'll ask him about their relationship here momentarily. what more do we know about her passing and about, you know, what was it, 1992, when she first came out to the world saying, i have multiple sclerosis. >> that's going to be part of her great legacy is that she was really the first person to talk about it openly in that way. back then, celebrities didn't come out and say, i have a terrible debilitating disease and she did. that made a huge difference for people with ms and still does make a difference for people with ms now. people with ms often live a normal life span. she was 70. so she was not a young, young woman. and they die not of the disease, but of complications of the disease. so the disease affects different

people differently. we saw, for example, on larry king, she was able to speak and able to, you know, compose herself. >> and let me come to you momentarily. we have paul anka on the phone. paul anka on the phone from l.a. airport, headed to new york. paul anka, can you hear me? >> i can hear you very well. it is a sad day. thank you for having me on. >> it is a sad day. you knew annette funicello. tell me, because i know you wrote puppy love and she was known for her hit songs. take me back, tell me how you met her and what was she like. >> well, she and her family were wonderful family. she was a very sweet, and a very intelligent girl, she had a great integrity for her career, a great love for her family. she was always fun to be around. of course, we were very young, and we were both kind of clawing our way through life trying to find out who we were.

nothing but fond memories. we obviously at some point she wanted to get married and i didn't. and that's what happened in our relationship. though we remained friends for many years. she went on to marry a wonderful man, who was my agent at the time, but she continued to be very outspoken in terms of everything she believed, even right down to her ms, going to the forefront and shared it all with people in hopes of inspiring them in some way. and it is just a very, very sad day. i know the last -- quite a few years was not a way to live, and it was just something that we all felt very deeply in terms of how she existed with that. but she will rest in peace, she will be loved, not a malicious thing ever said about her nor she as a person. and my heart goes out to her, her family, her extended family, to everyone. >> can i jump in here and ask a question. paul, real quick, it kind of has been reported and rumored she also wrote put your head on my shoulder for her. was that kind of an ode to your

love? >> puppy love, right? >> we were in communication with each other a great deal. and working together. and ultimately with the closeness we had, the disney people were not really happy with, you know, two young people getting too serious. probably rightfully so. so and indigenous to all those events, i did sit down and write puppy love because it was hammered to me that it was just puppy love. so that, indeed, was written for her. when i was traveling around, i was writing, i would call and sing songs to her on the phone. put your head on my shoulder was one of them. but puppy love was specifically for her. >> paul, i also had read, you know, despite her successes and she was like the original triple threat, which i want to ask you about in a moment, but i read she was shy in the studio when it came to her singing. >> well, she was not very confident. i mean, i sat with her for many days, many weeks and tried to

tell her she did have some tone, she could sing. she was very reluctant about it, very shy about it but very confident about her acting. but her singing she needed some mentoring and she came out of it all right. she did a great job. >> what was it about her that you think people just took to, paul? because she was kind of that teen idol, that dream boat, that boys love and girls wanted to be friends with. >> well, it was all of that, you know? you have to look at the times. pop music was in its infancy stage. television was just emerging really. and all of a sudden you had this cute looking, lovely person with a great soul that emerged and stepped out in front of everyone from that whole disney group, and her loveable, her loveable little personality and her sincerity people just gravitated to it. and she wasn't even supposed to come out on those tours with us, on singing tours, but she wanted

to try to sing, as shy as she was, but she was courageous that way. she had that appeal. she had that all american appeal. >> she had it, as people say. she had the it. thank you for calling in. safe travels. i believe i'm sitting down with you on wednesday when i'm in new york to talk to you about your new book "my way." i'll see you wednesday. paul anka on the phone, elizabeth cohen and nischelle turner, thank you very, very much. now, she was a woman in a man's world. margaret thatcher, margaret thatcher has died at the age of 87 from a stroke while staying at the ritz hotel in london. nicknamed the iron lady, she was the first and the only woman to ever lead britain as prime minister. she's been called tough, even broodish and was a towering and unshakable force. >> what really gets me is this. it is very ironic that those who are most critical of the extra tax are those who are most

vociferous in demanding the expenditure. what gets me even more is that having demanded that extra expenditure, they're not prepared to face the consequences of their own action and stand by the necessities to get some of the tax to pay for it. and i wish some of them had a bit more guts and courage than they have. >> she stood up against communism. she led her country to victory in the falkland war. she got britain through the final painful years of the cold war. but it was her tough economic medicine for a sickened country by inflation and budget deficits and industrial strikes that saw wide springs in popularity and the eventual revolt by her own cabinet. joining me now, two guests, frank bezno at george washington university, and richard venin,

author. gentlemen, welcome to you. frank, i want to begin with you. we have to talk about her friendship with president ronald reagan. you were there in washington. you were the white house correspondent to witness it all, to speak with her. my first question is this, beyond their obvious political afinnessfinit affinity, they seemed to have pretty strong personal chemistry. what was the basis of that? >> because they both believed in the same things and in many ways margaret thatcher went first. i was also assigned to london and i went to london in 1979, dating myself, but just months after she became prime minister, and she led the way. her version of conservatism really led the way for reagan. she went after welfare, she went after labor unions, she went after big government spending after the soviet union. she called for lower taxes. these were all things that reagan embraced. they were what reagan stood for. she had a somewhat condescending view toward him to begin with.

viewed him as something of a cowboy. over time -- they didn't always get along. but they had an affinity, especially one that developed over time because she felt she found a political soul mate, and she had. and he had. and they counted on one another. >> you mentioned the soviets. i want to come back to you and what she said about mikhail gorbachev before he took the reins there. but, richard, what about her relationship with the queen, the two of them obviously had an interesting relationship. >> well, it is very hard to know what kind of relationship she had with the queen because everything that passes between the monarchy and the prime minister is very private. i think it times is assumed the queen is close to the british establishment, which wasn't always easy with margaret thatcher. my sense from gossip is the royal family is rather supportive of margaret thatcher. >> frank, to you, let me just play this part of your interview, speaking about the breakdown of the soviet union.

>> not rely on people like the united nations either to make peace or keep the peace. always have to be on our own guard and always have to watch. when old empires break down, the world is a dangerous place. because all the things that had been kept under by the total evil suppression, they come right out again and old conflicts flare up. and that is -- >> giggling because we go to the archive for you, frank sesno. >> thanks so much. >> you're welcome. when margaret thatcher met with mikhail gorbachev, she invited him to britain before he took over, and she declared i like mr. gorbachev, we can do business together, talking about the influence on reagan, do you think her relationship then with mr. gorbachev influenced his? >> i would say that comment that she made, we can do business together, influenced a great amount of u.s. policy, because

there was a sense that a key ally, european ally, could do business, had met this man, she went first, and established a relationship. she saw in gorbachev something different. she wasn't at all reluctant to say we can do business with this man. and, in fact, they did huge business, of course, reagan ended up saying, mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall, he didn't tear it down, but it came down. >> the passing of another prominent lady, the iron lady, margaret thatcher. thank you, both. the president's push for new gun legislation is taking him back to connecticut today, the scene of the sandy hook killings which prompted national calls for action. two days after those 26 deaths, the president made a pledge, do you remember this? >> in the coming weeks i'll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens from law enforcement to mental

health professionals to parents and educators in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this. >> here we are, 3 1/2 months later and a lot of folks are saying this is make or break week here for gun control. jessica yellin, our chief white house correspondent, and for just one moment let's examine the big picture. whether you're for or against new gun restrictions, has the president done all he can, all he's promised, to try to enact them. >> it is a good question, brooke. it really depends when you start counting. after the sandy hook shooting, he called for major gun legislation -- safety legislation just five days later. he signed 23 executive orders, a month and two days later. today will be his 13th event in congress. all of that is very rapid. believe it or not, for movement in washington, d.c., frustrating as it may be that nothing has gotten done here really to date.

but, this say big but, if you consider the possibility that the president could have pressed for all this action in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, which happened more than two years ago and he didn't, well, then it is a whole different discussion, brooke. >> so, okay, basic state of play, though, right now, we had the president going back to connecticut. what are we looking at when we look ahead to tomorrow, wednesday, thursday, gun control debate really begins to come to a head. >> so the senate comes back into session, and democrats are looking for a compromise to reach with republicans. and they're trying to figure out who their dance partner will be on this one. the two options, pat toomey of pennsylvania, or tom coburn of oklahoma, and they're looking to cut a deal with one of those two senators to try to bring in more republicans to try to get past the key 60 vote threshold. at the same time, today the president is giving this speech in connecticut, he'll be joined by 11 family members of the sandy hook victims. and those family members are

going to board air force one with the president, after the speech, fly back to washington, d.c., i'm told by white house aides, and when they get here, they're going to go lobby senators to try to get more senators to get on board this legislation, try to pass the bill. so that will be a pretty forceful message coming from victims' families. >> we'll watch for it. jessica yellin, chief white house correspondent, thank you. coming up, the president of rutgers is right now holding a town hall, days after the uproar over the video from the basketball coach abusing players. we know that coach is out, the assistant is out, we know the athletic director is out. let me tell you this, this president just got an earful. you'll see what happened. plus, a former boxer has a rap sheet you wouldn't believe. now there are concerns that this man could be linked to murders across america.

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the fallout from that disturbing video showing the rutgers head basketball coach berating his players in practice was part of the contentious town hall today. you've seen the video, yelling, shoving, homophobic slurs.

coach mike rice has now been fired. that firing came months after the school's athletic director first saw the video. we now know the a.d. has resigned. earlier today, new jersey governor chris christie did not mince words about the now former rutgers head coach. >> what parent would let this animal back into their living room to try to recruit their son? after this video? i'll tell you this, if i had a son who played basketball, was recruited to the division one level and saw this individus vi this guy called and tried to tell me i should entrust my son to him for the next four years, i would hang up the phone. >> little while ago, president of rutgers held a previously scheduled town hall meeting and felt some heat from the passionate crowd of faculty and students. >> horrible words were used and i don't know why that has to be used in an athletic arena. why we have to use the oppressed

to make and motivate someone else. that came to light. what is being done, or what has been done since then to change the climate and culture, because when i see from what happened in december, nothing was done. in fact, it was covered up. >> cnn's pamela brown was at that town hall meeting. i understand it is still going on. tell me what did the president say. >> that's right, brooke. this town hall is supposed to end more than an hour ago. as you see behind me here, the president of rutgers university still speaking to staff members, faculty members and students here at rutgers university. certainly a rough reception for him. this was the first time that the rutgers community has had a chance to air their grievances and speak to the president since the video was released to the public last tuesday, showing head basketball coach, former head basketball coach mike rice, berating his players. put this in perspective, brooke,

this was a preplanned town hall that was supposed to be focused on strategic planning but this controversy took center stage. many members of the rutgers community fired up here today, some holding signs like give barchi the boot. others yelling out, calling for his resignation. there were students we spoke with earlier today who said even though four people have lost their jobs, as a result of this, they believe that barchi should take more ownership and step up to the plate and say that the buck stops with him. there were several heated exchanges today with people here at the town hall and the president. here is one of those exchanges. let's take a look. >> it was not recommended to me by anyone and i didn't overrule anyone regarding dismissal. it may have been internal discussion with the legal people that were present or whatever, but it certainly wasn't

recommended to me and i didn't reverse or push back on any decision like that. and i will say that absolutely categorically, and i have to tell you that i'm not covering up for anybody. i have my own ethics to worry about and my own principles and i'm not going to stand up here and cover up anything for anybody. >> can you answer my question, do you believe that you still have the ability to lead this university? >> do i have the capacity to do that? i know what my own view of that is, but frankly i serve at the pleasure of the board every day. and i serve basically at the pleasure of the university every day. >> another big question here today, brooke, is why president barchi didn't look at the video several months ago when he was made aware of it. he said, quote, it seems like the right people had their eyes on it, and were giving me the right information. still, a lot of unanswered

questions here today, brooke. and this comes on the heels of finding out that the former athletic director tim pernetti and mike rice will be receiving payouts of more than $1 million as part of their settlement agreements. >> tough questions for the president there today. pamela brown for us at rutgers. pamela, thank you. coming up, two boys somewhere in the gulf of mexico. police are searching for them. they were kidnapped by their own father. and now authorities think they are somewhere on a boat in this body of water. we'll look at how you search an area that huge.

samuel little's arrest record spans the spectrum from shoplifting all the way to murder. the now 72-year-old former boxer racked up some 75 arrests ever since the age of 16. folks, his rap sheet fills more than 100 pages. yet here's the twist, this guy spent less than ten years behind bars and was paroled back in 1987. and now police in at least nine

states, these states highlighted here for you, are reopening cold cases, cold murder cases, to see if sam little is a career serial killer. right now, he's facing trial in los angeles for the murders of three women from the 1980s. want to bring in casey wian live in l.a. sam little, we know, he was found, arrested in kentucky last fall on some unrelated charge. so connect the dots for me, los angeles, nationwide investigation, what's going on? >> well, brooke, here's what happened. two cold case investigators here in los angeles had dna evidence that they say links samuel little to two murders here in los angeles in the 1980s. as you mentioned, he had been arrested several months ago on an unrelated drug charge. they ultimately found him living in a homeless shelter in kentucky and successfully extradited him to los angeles, where he is now charged with three different counts of

murder, from the 1980s. i want to point out that he has pled not guilty to those charges. his public defender has not responded to our request to talk about this case. but investigators for the lapd tell me that they believe he could be a suspect in dozens of murders around the can country. as you mentioned, he has a long arrest record dating over 50 years. they say he's been arrested in 24 different states and they are now encouraging authorities in all of those states to check their cold case records, check their files, see if there is any dna match or any other match to samuel little who they suspect may be this prolific killer. the scope of this is unlike anything she has ever seen in her career, brooke. >> so then why did he keep getting break after break after break? >> well, part of the reason is because dna technology in the 1980s was not as sophisticated as it is now. another reason you mentioned,

the word break, investigators say he's received a lot of breaks over the years. and, perhaps the most important reason, the victims that he is suspected of preying upon were on the fringes of society. not the types of victims that you might characterize as providing good witnesses. he was convicted of a sexual assault involving a woman back in 1976, authorities believed that was pled down. he only did three months in jail. his total career in prison, less than ten years. here's what detectives say about why he has escaped the arm of the law for so long, brooke. >> okay. i don't know if we have the sound. but we have sunny hostin. sunny hostin, let me bring you in. casey was mentioning a case from the '70s. you look at the rap sheet, there was a case in the mid'80s where he was acquitted of killing a disabled woman in florida. you're a former prosecutor, you know the law pretty well, sunny hostin. have you ever heard of something like this, this extreme?

>> i haven't heard of something this extreme, but i certainly have heard of these kinds of cold cases and these kinds of folks, sort of not being apprehended sooner. i think casey pointed to what has been the issue in this particular case, one, the advances in forensics science. we're talking about a whole new world when it comes to the advances in dna evidence that we didn't have back then. so it was almost impossible to sort of tie him to a lot of these crimes. but i think the other thing, which is just saddened me so much, because i have prosecuted rape cases involving victims that were prostitutes because, of course, we all know that a prostitute can be sexually assaulted, just like any other woman can be, or man, quite frankly, but in these cases, it appears that for various reasons, because he targeted prostitutes and others that were sort of on the fringe of society, juries didn't believe some of them, juries found them not to be credible witnesses. and some of the victims didn't

even come forward. and sort of moved on because they were leading these transient lives. you do unfortunately see that in these kinds of cases. >> now at age 72, he may be getting some justice that sounds like perhaps in los angeles. casey wian on it, thank you. and sunny hostin, i appreciate you as well. coming up, they're running from the police. joshua and his wife allegedly kidnapping their children, putting them on a boat like this one and taking them out to sea. authorities are hoping the public can help. female announce] what if the next big thing, isn't a thing at all? it's lots of things. all waking up. ♪ becoming part of the global phenomenon we call the internet of everything. ♪ trees will talk to networks will talk to scientists about climate change. cars will talk to road sensors will talk to stoplights about traffic efficiency.

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okay, hot topics time. jay-z and beyonce, two names you don't normally associate with the touchy subject of u.s. relations with cuba. but the power couple took a trip to havana last week to celebrate their fifth wedding anniversary. legally, you can't just take a vacation to cuba. at least you and i can't. you have to get permission. let me be crystal clear here, though. we don't know yet if this couple actually went through the proper channels or not. that said, you know you have to get permission to go down there.

the u.s. slapped travel sanctions on cuba in the 1960s. now two people want the state department to explain why these two were allowed to make the trip. we're waiting for that. white house spokesman jay carney, though, was asked about this trip just about an hour ago and he referred all questions to the treasury department which handles travel requests to cuba. let me bring in today's panel. we have comedian deena vadalo, and alonia makosky and actor wendell middlebrook. dea dean, let me begin with you. do you think this say big deal that they're out and about in cuba? >> no.

the truth is recent poll shows 70% of americans think we should list travel restrictions to cuba. they're from the cold war. the cold war is over. hello. we won it. let's move on and get rid of the ridiculous restrictions. there is a long place, but a lot of people got an exception to go down, who better to send than the royal family of music down to cuba. >> i know a lot of artive ivis go down there, they say we're down there for cultural reasons, so this may be fine, green light for them to go down there. do you think we should ease restrictions, the embargo should go? >> yeah, i couldn't agree more this is a completely outdated, outmoded part of our foreign policy, something back to the cold war. i know congressmen need to please their constituents, but for someone on the house foreign affairs committee, i think she has bigger problems to worry about than jay-z and beyonce going to cuba. maybe worry about what is going on in the middle east, in asia,

some of our shadow wars, what is happening in yemen and pakistan, civil liberties, violations we're seeing from this administration, this really should not be a hot topic for them. >> let me read something that a lot of people are making the point, whether they were down there legally or not, they had -- they're an impressive pr machine, these two, this couple here. i read this in the washington post, thought this was fun. from reliable source blog. best of luck in your investigation, congressfolk, but whether it is ellipsing scandal or trademarking her baby's name, beyonce always seems to win. not to mention they're friends with the potus and flotus. you think they'll win this one? >> i do think they're going to win this one. what i think is funny is i know we get into the embargo, of course. we're still dealing with human rights and stuff. i understand why people are so upset, i guess, why do they get to go and do they have a connection to the white house and stuff. but and i think it is the pictures that it looks like they're having such a great

time -- >> a great time. >> i get that. but the cameras are going to follow there is going to be paparazzi, that kind of crowd, if they go to walmart to get a caesars salad and a cupcake, that same crowd would be there, so capturing those pictures, i can't make a decision until i hear their side. >> francesca, i want to bring back dean's point about dennis rodman. it seems like apples and oranges. he seemed to have a good time taken was portrayed as a positive trip, albeit laughed at by a lot of people. why is there such a difference between north korea and his trip and cuba and their trip? >> i completely agree the restrictions should be lifted. it is not fair to tell people that they can't, you know, travel to cuba, but it is okay to travel to north korea. it is okay to travel to china. other countries in which the regimes are seen as oppressive to the people. i agree the restrictions should be lifted. that said, it is not fair that

beyonce and jay-z can buck the rules and do things that other americans can't do. they may have gotten permission to do it. what real reason do they have to be down there when tourism is restricted? >> i don't know. can i say i'm kind of jealous. i would love to go to cuba. i would love to go to cuba. we'll find out maybe from, you know, the government whether or not they did, in fact, go through the proper channels to go. i want to move on. we have to talk about snoop -- i want to say snoop dogg. forgive me, snoop. because he said -- he's making news, he said there will never be a gay rapper because to use his word, rap is too masculine. hmm. we're going to marinate on that next. #%tia[

rap music, not exactly known as a haven for gay artists, in fact, gangster rap lyrics and culture are notably homophobic. snoop says it is not about the change either. he's quoted in the guardian newspaper saying he has gay, quoting him, gay homies, didn't have a problem with gay people, but hard core rap culture is not ready for gay rapper. want to bring you back in. to use snoop's word, he says the rap industry as a whole is too masculine. makes me think of the conversations we had with the nfl, if there is an out player or a player who would come out

publicly. whether we think it is right or wrong, do you think he has a point? >> i thought he had a point with -- when i thought he was saying it would be hard for them to be accepted in the rap world. and then when he went to the masculine thing, that's when he lost me because i think it is very funny that we're saying a gay rapper wouldn't be masculine enough when we have, you know, rappers jumping around on stage like 3-year-olds who just finished a lollipop. to say that's masculine which means the quality of manhood, that's when he lost me. at first, i thought, okay, acceptan acceptance, i get. when you see lil wayne, i'm like, we got to question on masculinity. >> you agree? >> my new name is dean tiger. i want a rap name. some kind of cool -- >> not allowed. >> i'll keep the last name. here's the thing. snoop dogg talking about masculinity, he used to braid his hair, drink out of a gold cup and wear more jewelry than

my mother. guys wearing capes, wearing gold goblets, look at the queen of england, that's ridiculous. it is truly homophobic when you get down to it. the idea of stigmatizing it and saying gay people are not accepted in the rap community. hello, snoop, there are gay rappers like there are nfl players and basketball players who are gay. we get beyond this and treat this all equally, we'll be better for it. >> ladies, i want to get to you. i'm a frank ocean fan. we know the frank ocean back story, he talked about how i think it was on tumbler, he broke the news, his first love was a man, a huge deal within hip-hop circles. so this is what -- when snoop was asked about this this is what snoop said, quote, on frank oceans, frank ocean ain't no rapper it a singer. it is acceptable in the singing world, but in the rap world, i don't know if it will be acceptable because rap is masculine, like a football team. you can't be in a locker room full of -- and then all of a sudden say, hey, man, i like you. that's going to be tough.

>> put down the joint, snoop. put down the joint. >> i read the back story, frank ocean talked to gq magazine last year and he said -- he make the point, maybe it is more of a race thing than a rap thing. ladies? anyone? >> i think that's an interesting point about the race thing. but i don't know that that has anything to do with it. i don't really take anything that snoop dogg says very seriously or snoop lion or whatever he wants to be called these days. he's pretty outdated. when was the last time he put out a track that anybody heard about. >> i hear you on that. but to the facts, is there a hard core rapper out there, who is openly gay? do you know of one? >> no. >> that's guy questia good ques. i don't know of one. that's why frank ocean made such waves. even if snoop dogg says he's a pop singer and not a rapper, it is an entirely different world, once you have somebody that

breaks that new ground, people can start an open and honest conversation about it. i think that snoop lion and his new reincarnated face, why doesn't he take the lead and be a leader in this situation rather than making ridiculous statements where the masculinity line is going to be lost. >> let me end with a quote from frank ocean, did you worry it would derail your career coming out with this male love? i had those fears in black music. we have so many leaps and bounds to make with acceptance and tolerance and regard to that issue as something engrained. talks about couldn't go to one of his family members because of so that's the point where frank ocean. it is something to talk about, whether, you know, whether you trust what snoop lion said or not, it is interesting. thank you, all, very much. hot topics panel. >> thank you, brooke. party! awwwww... arigato! we are outta here!

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saying good-bye to the iron lady. >> no, no, no. >> as the world marks the passing of one of history's most dynamic female leaders, you'll hear from critics of margaret thatcher and also about her friendship with an american president. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. this week, the gun debate comes to a fork in the road. and it starts just a short time from now, with president obama near newtown. and a desperate search for needles in a hay stack.

how crews are looking for two brothers in the gulf of mexico. plus, the fox news reporter faces possible jail time for refusing to reveal her sources. we're on the case. hour two as we continue on, good to be with you on this monday. i'm brooke baldwin. today, we are mourning the loss of a movie and a tv actress who goes way, way back. remember this girl? ♪ >> annette. ♪ to my right and my left with a great big smile ♪ >> listen to that young voice. annette funicello, one of the original mousketeers on "the mickey mouse club", she would star in the beach movies. she died today at the age of 70. i hope you heard this, we talked

last hour to an old dear friend of annette's, the songwriter paul anka. take a listen. >> of course we were very young, we were both kind of clawing our way through life, trying to find out who we were. i have nothing but fond memories. we obviously at some point she wanted to get married and i didn't. and that's what happened in our relationship. we remained friends for many years. she went on to marry a wonderful man, jack girardi, my agent at the time. she continued to be very outspoken in everything she believed, even right down to her ms, which brought to the forefront and shared it all with people in hopes of inspiring them in some way. and it is just a very, very sad day. i know the last quite a few years was not a way to live and it was just something that we all felt very deeply in terms of how she existed with that. >> talking about annette

funicello with mr. larry king, formerly of "larry king live." you got me? >> i got you, brooke. >> i know it is a sad day and for so many people and you, of course, spoke with everyone, including annette funicello, multiple times, including back in 1994. let me just play this one clip. >> i was feeling strange little things. numbness, i used to think i slept on my arm wrong. my equilibrium was strange, you know? i couldn't walk on the sand. my eyesight was deteriorating. it really was. so i found out the latter part of '87, and it threw me, you know. it really threw me because i've

always been so healthy. >> we know, larry, she died of complications of multiple sclerosis, and that was what she was talking about. do you remember that conversation? >> sure do. you know, john kennedy probably said it best that life isn't -- life isn't fair. and multiple sclerosis strikes someone like annette funicello, who is so full of life, she was right from mickey mouse days. she was a talent, she was up front, she was -- she was a joy to be ash. she was fun, and then to be hit like this, and to go, you know, 70 is the new 50. and it is really sad and, of course, same day of margaret thatcher who i interviewed twice on "larry king live" and shared dinner with, both going the same day, it is really sad. >> and lilly pulitzer and roger ebert. it has been a tough 24 to 48 hours. >> yeah.

>> with annette funicello, you think about -- we talk these days about triple threats. i feel like she was sort of the original triple threat as the mousketeer and the singer and screen star. i talked to paul anka, saying, yes, i wrote puppy love her, about her, talking about their young romance. what was it about her? he said she had it. did you feel that it when you were talking to her? >> yeah, it is what -- brooke in showbiz terms and impossible to describe, it is what -- it's it. you either have it or you don't. i don't know what it is. but she had it. i can't define it, but i know it when i see it. certain people, they come before a camera, and the camera, as burt reynolds once said, the camera likes them. they just like them.

they enter a room and the room changes a little. and annette funicello had it. she wasn't the greatest singer in the world, wasn't the prettiest woman in the world, wasn't the greatest acting talent ever, but in all three areas she had it. >> sounds like -- >> it is sad. >> she was loved very much by her husband in the last three years -- >> he was a great guy. he took care of her and as paul said, it must have been a really bad last couple of years for her. a terrible disease, ms, and no cure and i know they're spending lots of money every year to try to find a cure. it is a sad way to go. >> it is. and in talking to elizabeth cohen here at cnn, saying this is probably really part of her legacy, back then in '92, she kept it a secret for so many years, she was coming forward and saying, yes, i have multiple sclerosis. that was bold of her to do that then and something that people will certainly remember her buy. larry king -- >> absolutely, brooke.

good talking to you. anytime. >> thank you. >> same here. now, another impassioned push for gun control today from the obama administration. president obama set to give a speech pushing for new gun control legislation, this afternoon, in hartford, connecticut, not too far down the road from newtown. you know the story. 20 children, six adults were gunned down at sandy hook elementary school in december. later today, 11 family members of those victims, of those shootings, will fly back to washington with the president on board air force one. they will spend the next couple of days lobbying senators to pass gun control and gun safety legislation. and our chief washington correspondent and host of the lead, jake tapper, joins me now. jake, you were with the president when he was in connecticut. tell me about that. >> i was watching the december 16th footage. i was the tv pool reporter when i was with abc news and a white house correspondent and in the room. i was thinking about that.

as we showed the footage. it was a remarkably moving event because there were parents, this was just days after the shooting and there were parents in the room, weeping, as the president recited the names of the children and the teachers who had perished. it was a heart breaking event and looking back, there was so much momentum and so much energy at the time for something to be done about gun violence, whether it is gun control, or mental health or guns in the culture, and here we are, four months later, and only now was the legislative process on one of those items really beginning to take hold. and if anything -- >> background checks. >> they will be debated this week and still unclear as to whether or not anything will come out of the senate. >> what about your show? i know, jake, you sat down with connecticut democratic senator

richard blumenthal. what he did say to you about the nra's efforts to thwart this legislation? >> we played some sound from his governor, malloy, who was on candy crowley's show, yesterday. state of union. and asked as malloy said, wayne lapierre, the executive director of the nra, is like a clown. this is what senator blumenthal had to say in response. >> you know, we have a historic opportunity to break the stranglehold that the special interests, like the nra, have had over legislative consideration of gun safety. and i believe that we can and will break that stranglehold because the nra has lost a lot of its credibility. it wants actually -- >> you may say it lost credibility, but it gains at least a half million members since the newtown shooting.

>> and many of those members now support, for example, background checks. >> and it is true, of course, brooke, that polling indicates substantial significant support for background checks, among not only the public in general, but also gun owners, but right now, it is still unclear whether or not there will be anything that can come out of the u.s. senate, both because there are republican senators who are threatening to filibuster anything, but also because it is not clear if there are enough democrats to support. >> a big week. a big week for gun control. we'll be watching for the president, jake tapper, thank you. we'll look for your interview on the lead at the top of the hour. >> thank you. next to a woman called tough and formidable, even brutish, she is britain's iron lady. margaret thatcher died at the age of 87 from a stroke. she was the first and only woman to ever lead britain as prime minister. take a listen to how cnn's piers

morgan remembers her. >> and i remember meeting her at one of rupert murdoch's parties in london and she was utterly formidable. she once said she was -- she used to make up her mind about all men within 15 seconds. and within 15 seconds of meeting me, i remember she had this huge tumbler of whiskey, massive, she used to love a large glug of whiskey and began prodding me in the chest very hard with a bony finger, putting me right about all things economic. and it was fascinating to watch. i remember thinking, this is obviously exactly how she's treated male politicians for the last 15, 20 years. she was a tough cookie. >> would have loved to have seen that. there were many who loved her had. she stood up against communism and led her country to victory in the falkland war and had fierce detractors. working class communities were devastated in britain because of her policies. here in ireland, her espousal of

old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering. cnn's international hala gorani is here. and i don't even know where to begin. what about this? >> there is so much when it comes to margaret thatcher. you can talk about how she completely transformed the uk economy for instance. this was an economy in deep depression with trade unions calling the shots. you'll remember, of course, in the '80s for those who studied it in history classes whom i lived through it and she broke the backs of the trade unions and the uk. but it is not just that. it is her relationship with europe, with mikhail gorbachev, the way she and ronald reagan together approached the soviet union, and brought about the end of the cold war in the end. so it is very interesting to look at margaret thatcher as multifaceted and the number of issues, the falkland war, other things, but also as someone who created a lot of division, even in death. >> want to go back, interesting, you say that, back to her

relationship with ronald reagan. talking to frank sesno, at gw university. he covered the white house and interviewed her under reagan and he was talking about really just the sort of chemistry they had. they had the political ideology, very similar, being conservatives. but they just gelled and she really influenced him when it came to the relationship with the soviet union. >> she did. and she was somebody who was in a relationship with some of the leaders in europe, for instance, paving the way for the united states to approach a leader like mikhail gorbachev. what is also important to remember is that this was also stage managed. people who knew them both, in meetings, knew that they had fundamental agreements on issues like neo liberalism, like the market economy being the new dominant idea at the beginning of the 1980s. but that they had disagreements when it came to the reduction of nuclear warheads that ronald reagan was negotiating with its soviet counterparts, the decision, for instance, for the uk to protect the falkland

islands from argentina. there were disagreements there. the u.s.' invasion of grenada, the withdraw from lebanon after the marine barracks bombings, there were disagreements between the two. but in the end, there was a broad agreement on fundamentals and we saw this image of margaret thatcher leaning over the casket of ronald reagan at his funeral in 2004. she already had a stroke two years before. her doctors told her don't go. against her doctor's advice, she went. and there was a very poignant scene where she at the end of her life, inching toward the end of her life, was saying good-bye to her ally ronald reagan. whatever you thought of her at that moment, you felt her, you know, you felt her, you felt her pain and felt sort of maybe her nostalgia for an era that had ended for her. >> absolutely. made history. hala gorani, thank you very much. and now by land and air and now boat. this desperate search to find these two small boys. police say the 2 and 4-year-olds

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an amber alert has spreads from the roads to the waters of the gulf of mexico. boaters are now on the lookout for these two little boys. you're looking at 4-year-old cole hakken and his brother 2-year-old chase. florida deputies think these two kids are on this sailboat. and you see why. these pictures that the hillsborough county sheriff's department released that's the boy's dad, joshua hakken and his wife sharyn are on this boat, and detectives think sharyn, the boys' mother, is helping the husband. on wednesday, these two little guys were in custody of their grandmother in florida when their father, according to police, tied her up, and took his kids.

still in their pajamas. the grandmother, sharyn's mom, freed herself after two hours and called 911. >> 911, what is your emergency? >> yes, my son-in-law just kidnapped my two children -- my two grandchildren, they have been in my state custody. >> i want to go now to mario batone, a retired rescue coast guard swimmer. welcome. just tell me how from a searcher's standpoint, the gulf of mexico, it is not small. how do you go about trying to find this boat? >> i can't imagine. given that the boat left on wednesday, it could move just at five miles an hour, we're talking about 600 miles they could have traveled, 280 square mile -- the size of texas, it is an impossible search area. so they simply can't go out and have a look. boats are hard to find when we have an idea where they are, and

they want to be rescued. they want to be found. i don't imagine they want to be found, so it is going to be really -- it is going to -- they're going to have to be found by leads, the coast guard and the hillsborough county sheriff's department. and other agencies are going to have to follow leads given to them. >> leads, by -- based upon people seeing the boat out in the waters? >> there has been a lot of sightings of the people have called in and said they think it is -- every blue sailboat in this world will be a sailboat. so they'll have to run down boats and the location. but they can't be anywhere. i can't imagine they're trying to stay in the state and they could be halfway to mexico by now. >> what if they get to mexico? what if they get to the waters? what happens to the family then? >> that's a really good question. i don't know exactly -- you know, where they -- what their plan is, where they plan to go. there are so many places they can go hide and hang out for a while. i saw a report about they thought, well, the gas -- they only have six gallons of gas on

the boat. that's the size of the tank in the ad. they could have gone to the hardware store and tripled the gas range of the boat alone. and it is a sailboat. so they can go anywhere and if they're going to get found, it is going to be when someone sees them on land. there is no way to go out and have a look at the gulf and try to find them. >> they have been gone, as you mentioned, since wednesday. this mother-in-law who had custody because of drug possession charges, the father faced, i'm sure she would love to have these two little boys safe and sound. mario, thank you so much. we'll be following this search, of course, for you, in the gulf of mexico. it is a restaurant that bills itself as a delightfully tacky yet unrefined. but when most people think of hooters, it is a specific vision that comes to mind. like, you know, the waitresses. now one former waitress is suing the company, claiming the restaurant unfairly forced her to wear a wig. she's angry. on the case next. ter is hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu!

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for how well you balance a tray. put it that way. it is how far -- the question is how far can hooters go to keep up its signature look. this ex-waitress, we'll talk about here, says her managers went too far. here she is. sandra lupo. she is suing hooters over what happened to her after she had brain surgery to remove some sort of mass. according to court documents, management insisted she wear a wig to cover her shaved head and the scar from this surgery. quoting legal documents now, the wig, however, caused extreme stress to her body because of the surgery and the healing wound, the plaintiff was forced to leave work because she could not wear the wig. for the manager reduced her hours to the point where the plaintiff could not earn an income, therefore forcing the plaintiff to quit. with me now, drew finley and sunny hostin. welcome. obviously, look, you're hired at

hooters, it is all about how you look and as a female you have to go into it knowing that. that said, does she have a case? >> i think she does. if you look at the discrimination laws in missouri, she will be able to get in court and how do we know that? we know that because hooters wants this case to go to arbitration. why? because a judge will decide or a panel of nonl-laymen. this would be an emotional issue. someone denied employment because of brain surgery. things would probably not fare well in front of 12 jurors. >> wearing a wig to cover a scar. sunny hostin this is what hooters says. hooters of america believes the lawsuit is without foundation, denies the accusations and filed a motion that the lawsuit be dismissed. do you think that will happen? >> you know, i have a copy of the court documents, i do actually think it is very possible that this case could be dismissed in federal court, and decided in arbitration because

hooters is alleging she signed an arbitration agreement. and bottom line is, brooke, you and i have been through this before, we have talked about people suing hooters over and over again. i remember we talked about a weight discrimination case and what happened? we don't know what happened because it got settled. it went into arbitration. that, i think, is probably what is going to happen here. does she have a point? perhaps. i mean, you know, bottom line is it is clear that she had the surgery and they asked her to water wig because hooters admits they asked her to wear the wig. but they're trying to get this to go away and they have been very successful in doing that. and i suspect we won't know what happens with this case. >> so you and drew agree this will go way because it will go to arbitration. to you, just for women who are looking for this kind of line of work, what is the takeaway for them? >> the takeaway is there is a plus and minus for the aesthetics. on the one hand, you're getting the job because you apparently look nice and that's it. but if anything happens to you,

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this wednesday, that is when north korea may launch a missile. the u.s., very much so watching the movement of these two missiles. and now it has its own missile defense system locked and loaded. north korea's missiles are widely to be medium range missiles, potential range, 2500

miles, which would put american bases in guam, as you can see here, within that circle, in reach. this as north korea severs its last tangible ties to the south after kicking south korean workers out of this shared industrial kaesong complex. today, north korea ordered its own workers to leave, located there right on the border. christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent, joins me from new york. christiane, let's do the ifs. if one or two perhaps of these missiles are launched from north korea, they, of course, would be tracked and shot down by u.s. destroyers. what happens then? north korea loses face? >> that's anybody's guess. i think it is important to say what people think might happen. i was just talking to gary seymour, president obama's former top nuclear adviser, and he said that it is very, very, very unlikely that there could be a hostile missile strike on

american targets or on populated areas. much less any kind of nuclear attack. what might happen is some kind of missile strike, some kind of missile launch on an area that is either just a test in the water or some area sparsely populated reminding us which they actually did that to one of the islands, south korean islands a few years ago. then the question is, what do you do in response? well, there is the possibility and the ability to have the missile shield up and to intercept those missiles. and then to decide what to do next, which would be anybody's guess. the preferred option right now is to continue with the -- what they have been doing over the previous cycles of these kinds of provocations. and that is go back to the u.n., you know, have all these sanctions and keep going in that group. they have to figure out how to respond in a way that shows north korea that what they can do is not cost free, and, yet,

not in such a way that would cause a bigger outbreak of war in the region. >> what do you think about -- there has been talk about opening up the line of communication, i was talking to former new mexico governor bill richardson recently and he was saying let's do out of the box diplomacy, maybe not president obama calling this young leader of north korea, perhaps a special envoy. do you think that would be beneficial? do you think that would happen? >> well, i mean, obviously there is no way the president is going to be seen as rewarding or there is any reason to call the young leader right now, even though all we know is that he's asked that to happen. however, what it appears is the united states is not thinking in that way at all right now, they're talking to their allies who have, let's say, met with kim jong-un, for instance, a european diplomat in north korea, in pyongyang, and the biggest real reliance for the west, for the united states, is on china. they are really trying to hope

and trying to persuade china that they need to step up and really bring kim jong-un into line. and also suggesting, not so discreetly, that, you know, chi china, if it is worried about the buildup, one of the reasons would be to keep north korea in line. so if china doesn't want to see a huge buildup by the u.s., they need to take that kind of thing seriously. they hope china might try to put not just a diplomatic squeeze on pyongyang, but also the economic squeeze. >> christiane amanpour, thank you very much. coming up next, he has a rap sheet more than 100 pages long. it could soon be getting longer. a former boxer ready to go on trial, charged with killing three people and now investigators say dna evidence could link him to multiple murders as well. we're live in los angeles, next.

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police across the country are going back decades to look at old murders because of one man. samuel little. he's 74 years of age, a former boxer, now facing trial in los angeles for the deaths of three women stemming from the 1980s. dna technology wasn't available before now. now has investigators in at least nine states trying to match unsolved murders with sam little's whereabouts over the years. casey wian is following this story for us from l.a. and, so his rap sheet, like 100

pages long, police say he may even be a serial killer. how did he end up in l.a.? >> well, here's what happened, brooke. cold case investigators here in los angeles had dna evidence and two unsolved murders in the 1980s. they say they linked that evidence to samuel little who was found living in a homeless shelter in kentucky. they arrested him, he was successfully extradited here to los angeles. he now faces charges of three murders here in los angeles from the 1980s. he has pled not guilty to those murders. but investigators here say he could have ties to killings in as many as 24 states. he has been arrested more than 50 times in those 24 states. one investigator involved in the case telling me today that the scope of this investigation, this potential serial killer investigation, is unlike anything she has ever seen in her career, brooke. >> but looking at his previous crimes, he was smacked with serious crimes, spent something like less than ten years in

prison. how did that happen? >> well, one of the reasons investigators say he moved around so much, he mentioned also the dna technology, was not as sophisticated back in the 1980s. also, he was convicted of crimes of violence dating back to the 1970s. one alleged rape case was pled down, apparently, to a sexual assault. he only did three months in jail for that. the main reason, though, investigators say he's been able to get away with it for so long is because his victims were often on the fringes of society. >> i think samuel little is a monster who preyed on vulnerable people. >> he basically is targeting high risk females who are -- some have been prostitutes in the past. >> another complicating factor in these investigations, brooke, i don't want to get too graphic here, but generally in rape cases, the dna evidence is found

inside the victims' bodies. investigators say the dna evidence in these cases is found on fingernails, clothing, outside the victim's body. if investigators weren't looking for that, the dna evidence may not have been preserved. but they're very confident they have enough evidence and they have got other evidence besides the dna that they think they'ey they'll be able to convict this guy. >> casey wian, thank you. 72 years of age he is. coming up, news on everyone and everything including kid rock making a rare move involving his ticket prices. plus, condoleezza rice, a big first for women. and nasa has a new plan to capture an asteroid. all that and more coming up in the power block. e announcer ] from meeting customer needs... to meeting patient needs... ♪

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ó? technology, sports, business, health, science and showbiz news. we're hitting it all right now, beginning with the power block. and this. ♪ sipping whiskey out the bottle ♪ ♪ not thinking about tomorrow singing sweet home alabama all summer long ♪ >> kid rock wants all seats to be the cheap seats. motor city rocker says every ticket for his upcoming summer tour will be 20 bucks. he is partnering with walmart to keep the price low and calling it the $20 best night ever tour.

but you can bet if you buy your tickets online, you have to pay the pesky convenience fees. new to us this afternoon, the senate has unanimously confirmed president obama's nominee to head the securities and exchange commission, mary jo white. the president nominated white in january. she is a former federal prosecutor for from new york who built a reputation there as one tough lady, taking on everything from financial fraud to organized crime, even terrorism. and in augusta, georgia, yesterday this is the picture you have to see, first female member of the augusta national golf course, former secretary of state condoleezza rice became the first woman to wear one of the famous green jackets. these are worn by members of the club. and the winners of the master golf tournament, which kicks off this week. the pictures are from the official masters website. this next story, sounds like

something out of a bruce willis movie, but this is real. nasia nasa is announcing plans to catch an asteroid and put it in orbit around the moon. seriously. i'm thinking, like, i have this vision of lassoing an asteroid. >> shooting a rocket into it, attaching itself and hauling it back to the moon. about the size of a bungalow, a house. >> how do they pull that off? >> i don't know. 2013 now, it will be done in 2025. and it will cost $2.6 billion. >> okay. i'm running, in heels. >> i'll tell you where she's going in a second. the asteroid is out there. they're going to go get it, capture it, put it around the moon and then take a rocket ship with people in it, and land on it and keep going and come back to earth. why would we want to do this? if we want to go to deep space, probably not going to have enough propellant or water on a single rocket ship. we may have to land somewhere

else, mine that asteroid and launch off again and then continue further into space, so nasa has this idea coming out of the kek institute that if we can take and see if we can mine an asteroid, find it, grab it, bring it back to the moon, put it in orbit around the moon, don't want to bring it back to earth, because that would defeat the point, the point is to get it somewhere where we can land on it, and then leave it again. this is a pretty amazing thing. a bunch of years before this happens. and a lot of money. but it could happen anytime here around 2025. where is brooke? where, oh, where has she gone? she's going to the ncaa big board downstairs with miss nichols. she'll report from here. the final game is happening about 500 feet from right here in atlanta. hundreds of thousands of people descending on this site right now. join brooke in two minutes. my father thought i was nuts for taking the job. but i took a job working at

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. >>. >> hello. i made the mad dash, and i'm going to pull this out. all the way from studio 7, seven floors above, in heels, down here, the center of the atrium. you've seen the big board.

we've all been playing our brackets and had them demolished by this past march madness. tonight the is the big night. without further adieu, here with me -- >> i'm doing a little vanna white. >> love seeing you in person. so you have had your work cut out for you the last couple of day ksz, several we days, several weeks. we're at cnn, this is the cnn mother ship. how far away is the georgia dome? >> i'm going to say maybe three football fields. >> three football fields away. so that is where the game will be played. >> not far. you could walk there. i'll take you along with me later. >> great. i have tickets but i'll take vip tickets as well. tonight we have louisville and michigan. what are you watching for? >> louisville has the newly minted hall of fame coach, rick pitino. they're certainly the favorites. not to say michigan can't win. very, very talented. louisville has won 15 games in a row.

this is a very experienced team. then of course they have the emotional push that they've gotten from kevin ware, his gruesome injury last weekend, the gracious way he's handled this so far and the way the team has bonded around him. geist to say, i don't know if you know this, they cut down the nets after teams win the ncaa championship. each player gets a take a piece of the net. i asked kevin ware, okay, you've got a bum leg. how do you cut down the nets if louisville does in fact win tonight. take a look at what he said. >> i think they should have a special escalator made just for monday night, you know, just to get me up there so i can cut my peels of net off. >> well, as long as you know 0 it's going to take an escalator because you said something about a ladder and that's not happening. >> no, i can't climb a ladder. can't climb no ladder. >> he'll find a way to cut down those nets if they win tonight. >> yes, i'm sure he'll get a piece of the nets.

i was there saturday night, you could see all the guys wearing number 5 in honor. >> ludacris has been wearing his number around town. let's give michigan a little love. i see a lot of michigan over here. >> yes, michigan in the crowd. michigan extremely talented team. these are some of the sons of former nba players. >> who didn't actually make it to their only final fours. >> a lot of pedigree and talent. national player of the year in tray burke, a team that's really gelled over the course of the year. they're a fun team to watch. trey burke can shoot the lights out. we'll see how he does against the louisville press defense tonight. one thing that's funny, the difference, john beeline, the coach, his first final four so of course his first championship game. rick pitino, his seventh final four, trying to become the first coach to ever win at two differently schools. and john beeline, the michigan coach, said when rick pitino was putting out all these instructional coaching videos, he was buying them.

so i was buying rick pitino's instructional how-to dvds, now he's coaching against him in the national championship game. >> listen, you've been doing this sports thing for a minute. this is actually fun having it in atlanta, i'm an atlanta native. it ae's fun to see the people, convicerts over the weekend. have you had a moment to play? what do you think of this final four? >> seeing all those people at the concerts last night was amazing. i see the value of a free ticket. >> sting, dave matthews. >> and remember new orleans has been a beehive and buzz of basketball activity where the women's final is. louisville men and women could be the second team ever to win both titles. we'll see if that happens tonight. all over the south there is fun stuff going on. the atmosphere is great. >> just slightly excited about this basketball game happening tonight.

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this is the final championship game to see who will take home the trophy for the best men's basketball team. let's switch gears and talk football, some video that's pretty amazing. this comes from nebraska this weekend. spring football has never meant as much. the 7-year-old battling brain cancer got the opportunity to live out a dream during the nebraska intrasquad xrscrimmage. jack hoffman took a handoff and raced 69